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1. gecko2 Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   If Hessle Cricket/Rugby club had left the bollards up so they couldn’t of got in then it wouldn’t of happened. It’s not the first time they have been there.

2. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   oh, so it’s their fault?!. i think i’ll go and set fire to my caravan in east park and throw stuff all over, as there are no council bollards.

3. kath Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   They are back on the football pitch on bude road they have cut the bolt and lock from the gate. Is this not crimnal damage

4. mimi Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   Are they back on Bude road they was there on firday but not on sunday. I bike to work that way early in the morning and to be honest would not like to pass em. These are not true romany gypsies these are just filthy pigs

5. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   interesting that they claim not to be able to hire portable toilets & skips, because they are trespassing and naturally enough, legitimate hire companies won’t get involved in illegal activities.

6. Nutmeg Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   It’s not much of a life. They move onto a site knowing exactly how long they’ve got before eviction is enforced. And interesting, F6, that because they’re trespassing they can’t hire facilities. Anyone living in those conditions will have trouble keeping things clean and tidy. Okay, they should stop travelling, but as Kal-El says they are human beings.

7. Kal-El Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   "These are not true romany gypsies these are just filthy pigs"

   That’s a very bad attitude as reverberates as prejudice. Although I don’t like the way the go about things I wouldn’t treat them any differently or thing of them in any un-human stereotype. What if you was born into a travelling family?

8. mimi Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   I was born in to a travelling family. These leave such a mess dirty nappys, human body waste as well as all there other rubbish.

9. medsec Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

   They choose this lifestyle and look down on those of us who live a ‘static’ existence. No-one is making them travel around. They don’t want to contribute to community expenses but expect communities they camp in to provide facilities.

10. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    perhaps if they showed some respect for the areas where they rill up in people may be more accomodating

11. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Society has to accept this as normal behaviour because the PC brigade says so.

    Things have changed so much over the years regarding mobile people. When I was a lad of 12 or 13 years we had problems with mobile youths of the same age on the area of wasteland which is now a housing area behind wilmington refuse site. We used to get attacked by the mobiles with ballbearings fired from catapults. In return we used to make good use of the old glass milk bottles filled with 4 star.

    I much prefer the past.

12. Chromosome23 Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Quote f..6 "Travellers placed eight mobile homes on the foreshore, which soon grew to 18. "

    Y’see, this is the problem which has caused so many caravan manufacturers to close. They given the things the capacity to breed!

13. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    According to todays/yesterdays HDM the Diddycoys have now arrived at a field next to Waitrose in Willerby. Perhaps they are going to do some grocery shopping. If so, I dont suppose Waitrose will want then moved on. After all it’s all business. The ERCC will not move them on as they are on private land. The owner of the land is reputed to be a farmer from North Yorkshire, who is possibly unaware of their arrival. All in all I think the Diddycoys are set for a long uninterupted stay. I hope & pray that the good people of Willerby & surrounding areas resist the urge to take the law into their own hands and remove the travellers from the field in question. I suppose one solution to the problem would be for the owner of the land to apply to the ERCC for a change of use order & make the field an offical camp site for the caravanners & their families. What does the rest of the forum users think?

14. YourMail Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_patch/view/57021-travellers-pitch-up-by-shopping-park

15. alanmackinnon Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I am still trying to work out whether theagitator is being ironical in the change of use suggestion. The biggest problem here is that a clear message would then go out to anybody who felt like flaunting laws and regulations that if they just ignore the said laws or regulations someone would come along and mutter "There there" and all would be sorted retrospectively. Nice idea but it don’t work like that. If the travellers want to live in our ar5ea, then it should be incumbent upon them to care for the area they end up living in and not turn any piece of land they infest into a rat’s nest or landfill site. Another idea is to charge them council tax and means test any benefits they manage to claw from the system. Of course the best idea is that they continue to do what their description indicates and that is carry on being "travellers" and travel.

16. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    what would happen then, if i went and set up camp on some private land?

17. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Good day Alan, when you get it worked out let me know. Hi Fnnnng-6, you would be hit with a civil prosecution &then have your ass and caravan kicked off the private land. Unless you were a Diddycoy of course.

18. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It really does not matter these days wether or not the land is private or not. Anyone belonging to groups considered to be "Minority" have the backing of the Human Rights lobby which clearly puts them above the law and free to carry on as they please. Should anyone protest at their antics, They just scream racism or the equivalent rubbish and the whole argument turns on it’s head and the good people living the society lifestyle become the evil doers.

19. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Far more effective was the style of removals in the Confederate States of America for unwanted guests. Carpetbaggers etc etc.

    "Oh I wish I was in a land of cotton"

20. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    HDM 2.4.09:

    "A spokesman for the travelling community said a shortage of designated travellers’ sites is forcing the community to set up home on land where they are not welcome".

    see? they are "forced…to set up…" because local councils don’t provide sites. think i might go and rob a bank: lack of people giving me money for nothing is forcing me to do it. why don’t they just accept that this 16th-century way of life is finished?. after all they enjoy other contemporary trappings, i believe.

21. Olly Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well ther wont be enough room will there, due to the fact most of them were kicked out of ireland several years ago, wonder why. Maybe something to bo with them being dirty, scrounging, theeving good for nothings that give nothing to the comunity they settle in, but expect respect and cash. Even vermin keep there living area cleaner. I think we should do like ireland did and send em on, maybe poland or cratia, they lost a few under Vlad a few years ago and we do seam to have a lot of there population, i think we would have the better deal there, strangely.

22. barrow Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Always seem stange to me that the "travellers" have all got expensive 4by4 cars!They are not the Romany gyspies of old,but people that adopted a way of getting benifits from the system,pay no tax or Council tax,can park where they want without any rent,and seem their kids can get away from going to school. If I drop a fag end on the pavement,I get fined £60 They leave a burnt out caravan or two,and get away with it.

23. keef Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    There are no decent gypsies anymore, what we have now are evicted council house tennants in caravans with feral children roaming the country, stealing and destroying as they go. We should be able to sieze there assests if they tresspass. We could even hand back the caravans and vehicles to there rightful owners !!!

24. Nutmeg Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well, there’s a thoughtful, moderate, compassionate opinion! I’d rather have the company of the travellers.

25. alanmackinnon Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I think it is very kind and considerate and public spirited of you, Nutmeg, to offer to accomodate a few of these homeless travellers. Will you be charging them rent or will you allow them to stay totally free of charge and allow them to sponge off you and take all you can offer without returning anything to you, as they prefer to do? Your answer will be really interesting.

26. gecko2 Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I’ve always loved that scene in Snatch with the burning caravan.

    I’ve had flatmates who have been dirty, and sometimes they need a bash on the head with a frying pan to show them the way forward.

    Here we all are saying how untidy they are, but I bet they don’t know any better. Someone needs to talk to them in their own language and tell them, that gypsy council guy shoul do it.

27. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Ah Nutmeg, but would the travellers want to keep company of you? Will you be sharing your house & grounds with them on a permanent basis or just until they clean you out?

28. Nutmeg Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Very interesting. We have an outpouring of racism that is allowed to stand, because it’s directed at travellers rather than black people.

29. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    How on earth can any of the above comments be classed as racist nutmeg?

    If someone steals a ten pound note, they are a thief. If someone smashes a window, they are a vandal. If someone kills another person in cold blood, they are a murderer.

    If someone chooses to say things how they really are, they are honest. NOT RACIST!!!!!

30. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    is "traveller" a racial group?. what about "capricorn" or "lorry driver"?

31. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Romany Gypsy’s I believe are classed as a race, At least the real McCoy anyway.

    Lorry drivers could be classed in a similar way as they live the life of a gypsy at times albeit using showers and proper toilet facilities. Goodness me some of us even manage to put our empty crisp packets into litter bins. It could be a good idea to place us truckers into a race category and then at least we could do something about the discrimination we encounter on a daily basis (In the UK anyway). Truckers are like Bikers in the way that Joe Public views them as 2nd class citizens.

32. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    all well and good: what about "travellers", though?.

    "Truckers are like Bikers in the way that Joe Public views them as 2nd class citizens.": do i detect the smell of burning martyr?. i always thought that truckers & bikers were seen as free spirits of the road, envied by joe public in his mundane, static life.

33. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Matyrdom is the reserve of imbeciles. Being viewed by Joe Public as second class citizens is only a concern for Joe Public. We Truckers and Bikers rise above any resentment and have a good laugh at JP’s obvious envy. Most of the time we are oblivious to others views and we certainly don’t feel the need to resort to "Elfen Safety" or the "Yuman Rights Creetins".

    Filthy Stinking Dirty Greasy Fat bellied Truckers don’t get offended when people call them harmless names.

34. Adolf Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    "Most of the time we are oblivious to others views…": that’s certainly true at roundabouts.

35. Roberto Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    How funny You notice the roundabouts. Yes it does seem we are oblivious at roundabouts. I get people giving me harsh paddington bear stares all the time at roundabouts. Can be quite amusing watching all the red faced people driving around them expecting to see 40 ton taking off like a jumbo jet. lol

36. medsec Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    No-one seems to know what to do at roundabouts these days. Lane discipline is terrible and as for give way to the right – forget it.

37. Red-Dragon Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It is true that people don’t have a clue when coming into roundabouts. I am not a lorry driver. However, I am capable of exercising that sadly dying art of the use of common sense.

    When you see a lorry on a roundabout, give it some space, it needs a lot more room to turn. If you try and pass a lorry that is in the inside lane but indicating right, you deserve all you get when the wheels flatten your nearside.

    ANYWAY – back on topic….

    Gypsies have always had a stigma attached to them. However, all the gypsies I have come across as a child and a young adult, have been lovely people: clean, intelligent, respectful of the communities in which they dwell. HOWEVER, this newer idea of "Travellers" is a different concept. Wherever they go – certainly round the north of England – a crime wave seems to follow. Not only that, but whenever they leave, they leave damage, dirt and waste behind. As someone said above, if you want respect, then show some respect for others. "Travellers" are generally – from experience – the travelling folk that give gypsies a bad name.

38. mimi Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    My great grandad was a Romany gypsie and a rag and bone man doing his trade in Beverley, where he is now buried due to the respect of the people there and the the many friends he mad on his rounds. I very much doubt the people of Beverley would welcome this breed of travellers with the same generosity and friendship they showed him.

39. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Good Morning Nutmeg. Could you please let us all know how many of the Travelling people took up your very kind & christian offer of shared accomodation. On reflection some of my comments, with regard to your motives, were uncharitable. You truly are a prince among men. I feel really humbled to have shared the same forum as your good self.

40. fezziwig Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Are you going to offer the Gypsy’s accomodation theagitator?.

41. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Unfortunately not, as I have more sense than some of our more gullible forum members.

42. mimi Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    They are no longer on Bude road. Do not know where they have gone cannot be far as there horses are scattered all along Thomas Clarkson Way. There was about 12 of them yesterday

43. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Perhaps they have taken up the offer of hospitality from some of our forum members.

44. Chromosome23 Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Vanished like a late spring frost.

45. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Euthanize a couple of the horses & the travellers will soon reappear. Let’s hope that the horses are well tethered & don’t get onto the road and cause mayhem during the morning or evening rush hours. A horse hit by a 40 tonne lorry is not a pretty sight.

46. theagitator Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Are the horses still there & do they have a supply of fresh water to drink? I presume that the RSPCA are on the case or are they bothered enough to turn up & check. Swanbridge vets are just up the road, perhaps they could give the horses the once over now and again. It doesn’t take much effort to check that things are OK. I would do it myself, but I’m in the middle East at the moment for a few more days.

47. BobM Submitted 11 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Did you take your bucket and spade?

48. stevefoster Submitted 27 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Its our law that allows it to happen, and these people are experts at exploiting it perhaps these new travellers and their damage,and behaviour,should be dealt with by the anti social behavior team,after all they are the experts.

49. stevefoster Submitted 27 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Are there any carts for these horses to pull? no!i expect they use lorrys and vans,well what do they want horses for in this day and age?certainly not racing or pets,have you ever seen one of these travellers in jodphurs and riding boots? i thought not so that leaves me with thinking that the horses are a part of some old law that allows them to stay on land for an amount of time (eviction)or could they be keeping them for slaughter,so poor neddy may wind up in a horseburger,or horsestraganoff,maybe the rspa ought to look in their freezers unless its not breaking any law.

50. theagitator Submitted 27 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Such bitterness is quite shocking in someone who has suffered the slings & arrows. But not totally unexpected.

51. stevefoster Submitted 27 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well here horsey horsey,come here as im concerned and want to give you some lovely water,but not totaly unexpected Euthanizes a couple of them,hmmm.

52. theagitator Submitted 26 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Steve, it would behove you to remember that you too live in a caravan.

53. barrow Submitted 26 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Saw an old style gypsy caravan pulled by a horse the other day in Swanland Road north.Some men were smashing down a fence to gain acess to a field.

54. stevefoster Submitted 26 days ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    My caravan is around 38ft long and needs a wide loader lorry to carry it,but if nutmeg is offering,and he has room ill hire the lorry and drop it in the old town,after all its nearer to kenworthy house,hope he dont mind lending me some leccy,water,ect cheers nutmeg your realy nice.

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