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"Shouldn't you be catching burglars...?"

by Red-Dragon about 1 month ago
Last updated 2 days ago.

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A buddy of mine is a Police Officer.

He asked me once, "If you blatantly broke road traffic law – using your phone, or driving without a seatbelt, for example – would you grumble if you were stopped and given a ticket?"

My reply was that I would probably be grumpy and miserable, but would accept the ticket gracefully, because at the end of the day I would have broken the law and been caught doing so.

Surely I am in the law abiding majority who accept the consequences should we be caught doing something illegal?

So why is it that my friend also tells me that 90% of the people he stops whinge, moan and grumble and say things like: "Haven’t you got anything better to do with your time?" or "Shouldn’t you be catching burglars?"...?

Don’t people think that if – imminently – there were burglars to catch and rapists, murderers and robbers on the loose then the officers would drop the motoring offences and prioritise the more serious offences?

At the end of the day, the law is there for a reason, and the Police are there to enforce the law… be it road traffic law or any other criminal law….

Thoughts?

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  1. Jobo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Everybody accepts the law until it has an impact upon them which they do not like.

    Nobody seems to be able to accept being at fault – it’s somehow different when they do it.

  2. Mark11 Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Everybody would accept the consequences if caught driving illegally , my argument is the amount of resource put into this whist no resource is put into other minor crime for example if someone breaks into your shed. The police come across as taking the easy option most of the time but it is not the officers on the grounds fault it is the fault of the senior officers and their political masters.

  3. MossyBoi Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    imo certain traffic offences are there to get money out of you

  4. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Thing is though, no resources are put solely into traffic policing these days (certainly in this area). All resources are there for all purposes.

    As for someone breaking into your shed I understand from a colleague who used to be a forensic examiner, there really is no point in anyone coming to see you unless you have caught the person in the act, or they have left blood or other bodily fluids behind, as sheds contain no areas where DNA or finger prints can effectively be retrieved. The best course of action is to give as much info as you can over the phone including serial numbers of items stolen, so that if they are discovered in the future, they can be returned to their rightful owner. The person on the other end of the phone, may also offer you some useful crime prevention advice.

    Speaking from the point of view of someone who has heard it all from the horse’s mouth (as it were), the majority of Police time is spent dealing with ASBO applications, stopping kids whose parents can’t be bothered to look after them or bring them up properly, attending domestics and dealing with alcohol fuelled crime. Very little time is spent on traffic these days.

  5. Jobo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Many of the police staff do not display the helpful knowledgable attitude you portray here – still it’s an unenviable job. I would want to ensure something was done about the forgotten children and repeat offenders. However all of us should be aware that when we are doing small stupid things we are diverting police time from the real causes.

  6. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    True enough Jobo… but many people do not get caught, BECAUSE there is no real focus on "Traffic Policing" anymore. I see tens of people every day on their mobile phones whilst driving, and to me, that’s far worse than speeding, non-seatbelt-wearing, using bus lanes… etc, etc, etc….

  7. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I know where most people are coming from !!! I was attacked by 3 staffy terriors whilst walking my dog (on his lead) and I had my 4 year old son with me. This was 3 months ago my son wasnt hurt but scared, my dog was biten badley,I was biten trying to protect my dog and moving my son to saftey. The owner of these 3 dogs got away with it, I was faced with a huge vet bill. All the police did was to give me a crime number ,they didnt even turn up. I have little to no confidence in our police at all! My son is scared of dogs now and wont walk the street if one is about !

  8. MikeCovell Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    When you were attacked by the dogs Mark, perhaps they wanted to "Strike a Happy Medium…..."

  9. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    lol…. it was just off Bridlington ave where I live. These dogs where running free off their leads.

  10. AR-T0NY Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I was walking two of my Dogs, they were both on leashes and fully under my control. A chap was ten metres away and walking towards us. His tiny little pouch was trotting free and well ahead of him. On seeing my larger Dogs, it veered away into the side of the road and an on coming car. I hemmed my Dogs tight up against a fence and tried, vainly to hide them from the pouch. I shouted to the car driver and pointed, but he went straight over her, breaking her legs. I was very upset, as were the driver and his young children. My Dogs were upset by the sounds from the pouch. The owner walked over and picking her up shouted out `Oh no, not again!’ ..?Again?

  11. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    i have been fined for not wearing a seat belt along with 2 friends, it was 12.30 am on a sunday morning and my response was a typical why dont you do some thing worthwhile like catchung muggers & thugs etc. but put yourselves in their shoes and think what you would really do, fine 3 middle aged men for not wearing seat belts or go into the town centre with all the drunken fighting gangs i know what i would choose and it would’nt be the latter

  12. medsec Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well why were 3 middle-aged men, who presumably ought to know better, not wearing their seatbelts? It’s the police who have to attend when folk such as these go straight through the windscreen and splatter themselves all over the road.

  13. AR-Tcny Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Or flying forward at speed and striking the driver from behind.

  14. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    like i said thats what i’d choose to pursue

  15. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Police are scared of "real crime ",they would rather go for petty crimes where they are going to get money for a fine! If he goes through the windscreen of his car its his own fault ! Just seems dealers and pimps are still walking the streets and the police know about it but choose to catch car speeders or someone using a mobile phone while driving.

  16. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    this is my point it is human nature to take the easy option can anyone really say they would rather wade into the middle of a wild saturday night fight than be on traffic duty?

  17. Eebahgum Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I think anybody who answers, "Haven’t you got anything better to do with your time?" or "Shouldn’t you be catching burglars?" should have their fine doubled.

  18. AR-Tcny Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    One good Policeman is worth all the Asbo’s and CCTV put together.

  19. Denno Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    MakLindsay quote..

    but choose to catch car speeders or someone using a mobile phone while driving.

    Seeing that both of these are potential killers, I believe they are doing the right thing.

  20. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Sorry, but at the end of the day, breaking the law is breaking the law. Discretion is allowed, but on the topic of non seatbelt wearers and mobile phone users, think of the Paramedics, the Fire Brigade AND the Police who have to scrape body parts off road surfaces and the Police who then have to go and tell, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, etc… "I’m very sorry. I have some bad news."

  21. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Denno lol love it when i get quoted ! Im saying there is a lot more serious crimes going on under the police nose and they do nothing ! I love do -Gooders ! Suppose when they get arrested you want them to wear pink fluffy cuffs too lol

  22. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I’m rather amazed at the speed the long-yawn of the law lurched into action over the two Americans beaten up in the city on Wednesday. Clearly the way to get action in this City is to put on an American accent.

  23. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    3 locals were beaten to a pulp near here recently. the police arrived in minutes. clearly the way to get action in this city is to ring them.

  24. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Yawn Eddd, clearly the way to get action in this city is to not live in a Best Value area.

  25. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    yaaawn, laz. clearly the best way to get action in this city is to call the cops about violent crime.

  26. pumbles Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Seeing as the CPS reject (http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200607/cmhansrd/cm071029/text/71029w0002.htm )35.5% of prosecutions, and that even when a guilty verdict is obtained the punishment is often laughable, is it any wonder police do not feel motivated to attend or investigate crimes.

    Perhaps we should have less PC (politically correct) and more PCs (police constables)

  27. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Edd you call the cops they turn up 3 hours later or even the next day ! thats if your not interupting their game of snooker ! all you get is a crime number! I thought "pc" stood for …part-time cop !

  28. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Eddd clearly has no concept of what it’s like to live on the wrong side of the tracks.

  29. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    i think the point of this post is what the police prioritise there are some dangerous crimes and some not. so its better to try and keep safe and maintain the crimes solved numbers

  30. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    what experience/ evidence do you have of police non-attendance for violent crime incidents?

  31. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Edd read up ! We have needed the police numerous times and they didnt turn up. Do you want my crime numbers to check up ? They have let me down and most people down in the past which is why I and my family have no confidence in our police force.

  32. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    didn’t turn up for violent incidents?

  33. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    No they didnt ! They rang us back hours later

  34. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    "Police are scared of "real crime ",they would rather go for petty crimes where they are going to get money for a fine! If he goes through the windscreen of his car its his own fault ! Just seems dealers and pimps are still walking the streets and the police know about it but choose to catch car speeders or someone using a mobile phone while driving."

    Yeah whatever!

    Can you honestly say all your calls are worthy of 999. Hmmm… And as for not turning up for violent incidents, there must have been something much more urgent going on.

  35. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    "No they didnt ! They rang us back hours later" – what had happened?

  36. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Much more urgent things going on !..... Whats more urgent then being attacked by 3 staffys while you have a 4 year old boy with you? and whats more inportant then turning up for a burglary whilst you and your family are upstairs? Get real !

  37. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Obviously your needs were great at the time, and you may feel failed, and if I am perfectly honest, it is far from ideal.

    However, what you must accept is that there are more victims of crime in Hull than you, and there are not enough Police to get to all of them at once.

    While I am sure both situations were quite horrible, there may have been all manner of horrible assaults, burglaries, car accidents and the like going on at the same time, and you may have just been unlucky and been at the end of the queue. All jobs are prioritised and I am sure the two incidents to which you refer would have been towards the top of the list… although if I and my children were being attacked by a dog or some dogs, I would employ my boot to their heads, and not mess around trying to ring the Police, who cannot do a great deal more than me.

    So, although I feel for you very much, perhaps it is you who should "get real" and try and understand that even the most urgent of matters can not always be reached, regrettable as that is.

  38. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    and who would’nt prioritise an easier call? come on be honest

  39. Robbo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I wouldn’t Bob and I honestly dont think the police would.

    If they have a report of someone committing a crime then if someone is available they will attend to that crime regardless of the seriousness. They dont want dangerous criminals on the streets anymore than we do.

    Its like saying Fireman would attend a smaller fire if given the choice. Its nonsense.

    Beside Bob if you could be bothered to put your seatbelt on then the police would be able to devote more time to the serious crimes.

  40. bobsbar Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    sounds like your would make an ideal pc then bob ! rare but ideal

  41. Robbo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Alas, it is not for me. I dont think i’d have the patience required. Its a very unenviable job.

    Deal with scum. Risk your life at times and still get grief from the public you’re trying to protect.

    Definitely not for me.

  42. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Red Dragon.. I dont need to get real I live in the real world, because of the lack of good policing people will become vigilanties and take matter into their own hands which is what I did ! I battered one of these dogs almost to death but how the hell can I handle 3 of them ? I got my son to saftey and went back to rescue my dog ! People who lived in the street had to come to my aid to get these dogs off us,the owner then picked up 1 dog and dragged the other 2 away …only then did i ring the police not to my suprise they didnt turn up. As to not bother turning up when you are being burgled while you are sleeping is poor . If this happens again in our home we wont hesitate to attack,maybe then the burglar can ring the police for us assaulting them only for them to get a crime number !

  43. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Mark, it’s pointless trying to make the middle-class understand there is a dualistic policing policy in operation, based solely on council tax. All they have to do is pick up the phone on the basis of suspicion. We need to have physical proof.

  44. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    yes Lazarus I know what you mean ….the term banging your head on a brick wall springs to mind

  45. kath Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    my son had on cctv two people stealing a motor bike from his back way which i might add ,had six foot gates on which they broke the padlock the film was so clear it was like watching a film on tv they refused to come and see it and told him to bring it into the police station the policeman on the desk said that was just what they needed two weeks later they returned it by post with a note inside with compliments from the police but we do not know who they are.they never passed it to other area’s which is what they said they would when he took it in

  46. MikeCovell Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I worked at a shop with state of the art colour CCTV. Some kids kept pulling the doors off the runners which scratched the ceiling causing structural damage. I called the police who came to the store hours later. They took the tape and returned it stating "It is not clear enough and is cannot be used of evidence!"

    I contacted Police Complaints Authority who sent someone to the store.

    They convicted the kids of criminal damage, and the Police Officers who fobbed me off were disciplined.

    Sometimes they need a rocket up their "Truncheon Holder"!!

  47. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    lol Nice one !

  48. AR-T0NY Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Apart from one poor incident, resulting from the failure of one to read the previous notes of another, I and my family have been well served by our Local Police Force. They have shown at various times, forbearance, good will, guidance and encouragement. They have helped disentangle one son from a very complex case of identity fraud, which would have cost him thousands. They have nailed the murderer of one family member and the murderers of three friends, all in separate incidents, throughout the years. The community should pay more for them and dump all these useless cameras. So all you, who constantly criticise, BACK OFF and give them some credit!

  49. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    when my shed was burgled 3 times on SBW they said that they don’t come out for shed burglaries. when i got involved in a fracas in queen victoria square with some violent junky, the cops were on the scene en masse before i could land a 2nd fist in the scrote’s fizzog. and puhleeez, don’t try and make it into a boring class issue.

  50. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    When they stop backing off from us Doin, we’ll start to back off from them!

  51. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    ha ha ha ha! watch out for the mill owners, laz. up the workers.

  52. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It’s not the mill owners we need to watch out for Eddd.

  53. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    that’s right laz: it’s all them workin’ class scrotes who rape 74 year olds for a bet. sorry, i mean young men who are "disturbed…troubled…disadvantaged [do me a favour, mr. barrister sir]...disrupted… and immature"

  54. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I knew I could start to get your affected bourgeois sentiments out eventually Eddd. Keep up the good work.

  55. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    did you really?. well, well done.

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    rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    If the police do not respond …. tell them you will put the kettle on and you have Donuts ! Might pursuade them !

  57. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Thank you 8)

  58. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    no problem. it’s nice to offer the lower orders the occasional morsel of comfort.

  59. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    We’d prefer the capital we slaved for that you misappropriated. We’re well used to your benign sentiments and platitudes.

  60. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    we/ you? what is all this? haven’t you read krishnamurti

  61. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It’s hard to preach tolerance and forebearance when you can’t be bothered to take the silver spoon out of your mouth. But, whatever makes you feel composed about reality Eddd, keep it up, as Old Sid James used to say.

    I refer my honorable gentleman to the answer I gave moments ago.

  62. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    it’s hard to take an objective view & make salient points from an entrenched dog in a manger position. but, whatever makes you feel you have some meaning in your life, laz, keep it up. "Infamy, infamy: they’ve all got it in for me", as dear old kenny williams once said.

  63. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    No real advovate of objectivity (read Novicks), but pragmatism is a more, shall we say robust, position, to view cause and effect. Unless you can dialectically view history, then no history exists beyond bourgeois history; and I can see you fall into the latter group; which is a nodding dog in a manger position. While you grow fat off a nation’s wealth, the poor grow thin off its charity.

  64. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    history does not exist – all there is, is now. the origin of conflict is ego.

  65. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I liked carry on up the jungle the best

  66. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    ...nah,surely the greatest carry on film is "...at your convenience" – WC Boggs, et al?

  67. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Carry on Teaching from the old series and Carry on Cleo, solely for Williams’ performance.

  68. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Oooo oooo what about up Pompai ! Now that was a classic !

  69. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Doinalright says "Apart from one poor incident, resulting from the failure of one to read the previous notes of another, I and my family have been well served by our Local Police Force. They have shown at various times, forbearance, good will, guidance and encouragement. They have helped disentangle one son from a very complex case of identity fraud, which would have cost him thousands. They have nailed the murderer of one family member and the murderers of three friends, all in separate incidents, throughout the years. The community should pay more for them and dump all these useless cameras. So all you, who constantly criticise, BACK OFF and give them some credit!"

    Thank you.

  70. pumbles Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    The rot really set in with the introduction of the PCSO.

    Now the police control room will try to send them, giving you an incident number, not a crime report number. So now the Humberside police area have reduced their crime statistics by using plastic bobbies, who may be well intended, but have no more powers or effect than an ordinary citizen.

  71. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    pumbles – you are wrong I am afraid. They have a lot more powers and skills than the "ordinary citizen". While they do not have the power of arrest, they are an incredibly valuable part of the policing family.

  72. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I remember watching a scene unfold with a couple of plastic bobbies who surrounded a rather suspicious gentleman sitting at a bus-stop; suspicious in that he was unshaven, wore shabby clothing, and was clearly acting in a suspicious manner. When I walked past one of them was radioing in for assistance, and when the bus arrived the chap got on and the two bobbies stood their scratching their heads.

  73. pumbles Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I stand corrected Red-Dragon and apologise, however those powers are not going to impact on crime reduction, especially as they only the have the additional power to detain someone for up to 30 minutes, or the arrival of a police constable.

    They do have the power to request someone to accompany them to a police station. Somehow I cannot see many miscreants carrying this request out.

  74. barrow Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Went to Morisons in Anlaby today.There were four police cars and about 15 police stopping and checking cars and vans on the slip road.Easy targets again for such a vast number of coppers.Would have thought they could do better on a Hull estate where many do not have road tax or insurance

  75. kath Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    barrow, why pick on a hull estate try reading the paper when they publish the names and adresses of all those caught without tax and insurance and i think a lot of them are people that come from posh areas who think they can get away with it because of where they live

  76. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Because the only thing she knows about inner-city estates and their inhabitants kath, is what she reads in the Daily Mail.

  77. Colombo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Why were all the police in so much evidence around City Hall this afternoon?

  78. philcollinson Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    columbus they are after you-a big irie to you my friend.

  79. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    i think they were stewarding the university graduation ceremony,colombo

  80. Colombo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    oh. I wondered about that. Didn’t see any graduates around.

  81. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    there was a great long queue earlier – perhaps they were all inside receiving bits of paper.

  82. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Give it another week and 50% will be receiving another bit of paper; UB40s.

  83. BobM Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Red, red wine, I always thought barrow was a bloke Laz.

  84. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I don’t know why I consider barrow to be female Bob. Perhaps I thought the style to be feminine? I could be wrong on both counts however.

  85. barrow Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Old chap and male.Four kids and eight grandkids and love Red Red wine by Neil Diamond and Guns and Roses and was a DJ at Hull Cheese when it first opened.sorry if I gave offence to some

  86. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Sorry barrow, the rumour of your sexuality has been grossly exaggerated. Therefore I shall dedicate my next song to you; Mr. Rock and Roll by Amy MacDonald.

  87. Claire-Elizabeth Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    For god’s sake can you lot (one or two exceptions I’ll grant) not just for once give the police a break, all you ever seem to do on here is slate them. How many of you would be willing to walk the beat for the pittance that PSCO’s are paid? It takes a certain type of character to be a copper and they are not the lazy, uncaring idiots many of you portray. Try having a bit of Yorkshire pride for once. Humberside Police is actually one of the highest ranking in the country for sanction/detection rates and one of the lowest for public perception – say’s it all if you ask me.

  88. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I lost pride in them when they let a former black paratrooper die on the custody floor, and were instrumental in letting 2 little girls be murdered by a man who should have been locked up long ago.

    You might have a nice little service with your cosy bobby in E.Riding, but things are very different in the trenches my dear!

  89. Claire-Elizabeth Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    The paratroopers skin colour should be of no consequence, you patronising sod. Any death in custody or anywhere else that involves Police Officers is seriously investigated. Humberside Force area covers E Riding, Hull, and South Bank too. Is it only Hull that’s the trenches? What do you do Laz that supports your community and protects those around you?

  90. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    And who investigates the Police you naive bourgeios fool? We know very well where I live you look after your own business, rather than ringing the police if a teenager looks at you askance. We are very well aware who are the biggest cause of wasting police time and resources, but that’s alright Claire we know exactly why you pay them, and why they look after you so well.

    Nothing to say about Holly & Jessica?

  91. Claire-Elizabeth Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    What happened to those 2 little girls was a terrible thing, same said for the victims of Jack the Ripper, or Peter Sutcliffe but there have been terrible people doing terrible things for years though I don’t believe the Police are to blame for the actions, errors and ills that are inflicted by others. Where I live the teenagers don’t tend to "look at you askance" but maybe that’s becasue we’re brought up properly!

  92. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Yawn, don’t get into a discussion about social class, not when you continually have to edit your posts until you settle upon the right response, well, a cogent response at least. Jack the Ripper! Go speak with Mike on that one.

  93. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    "What do you do Laz that supports your community and protects those around you?" well?

  94. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    And so comes Eddd on his white charger to defend the fair maiden who can’t stand up for herself.

  95. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Like what? Protesting over the building of a failing school? Questioning the safety of a public park? Picking litter up after yourself? Kicking some scroat into touch because they think they can chance their arm with you? What Eddd? You’re big with the lip, but very little else.

  96. Chromosome23 Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I don’t know why any of you bother trying to argue with Laz. In his own mind, he’s not only always ‘right’, but he’s got right on his side.

  97. ChiefDragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I take exception to the implication that all the kids in Hull are not brought up properly,I beg to differ Claire, the majority are raised properly its the minority who get all the bad publicity therefore giving the rest a bad name.

    Once again Laz I agree that the school should never have been built where it was. There is a serious problem with the school and its not the kids, but if I voice my concerns on here I may get into trouble,I will be speaking to the appropriate people about it ASAP.

  98. Chromosome23 Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    But all of the kids in Hull are not brought up properly. Most of them are, but not all. I don’t understand your point CD.

  99. China Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Jack the Ripper!

    It’s perfectly obvious she meant to put the Yorkshire Ripper!

  100. Chromosome23 Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Nicely spotted China.

    Laz was on a roll there…subtlety tends to pass him by at such times.

  101. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    If plastic pigs dont have the power to arrest what more can they do than the normal citizen,apart from radio the head office for a crime number? I know "plastic pigs" is politically incorrect before Claire or red dragon start.

  102. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Firstly Claire-Elizabeth, PCSOs are paid a lot more than a pittance!!! Far more in fact than a PC is in his/her first few years!!!

    MarkLindsay – PCSOs – or "Plastic Pigs" as you call them, though that is hardly appropriate as they are not Police Officers, and are therefore not Pigs – have many different powers.

    Can you, for example – issue a non-endorsable fixed penalty ticket, or an £80 disorder ticket? Thought not.

    http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/community-policing/PCSOs_Audit_Table_May_2007_1.pdf?view=Binary – this link gives an idea of powers available and Humberside’s PCSOs have more than most.

    I agree with other posters on here. Give the Police a break and have a pop at another profession that you wouldn’t/couldn’t do.

  103. MikeCovell Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Did someone mention Jack the Ripper? My spidey senses are tingling!

  104. ChiefDragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Claire’s implied that ALL the kids in Hull are ‘dragged up’ my point being C23 is that the majority of kids here are well brought up AND its the minority who aren’t that give Hull the bad name,I thought my point was fairly obvious, sorry if its not.

    Where did the term ‘pigs’originate for the police force? And surely they are only ‘pigs’ if your breaking the law, what an awful term to call anyone doing a civic duty. Mind you they were ‘rossers’ in my younger days and I don’t know where that expression came from either.

    Any idea’s anyone?

  105. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    PIGS comes from an Americanism, I understand "P*ride, *Integrity and Guts"

    Can we not turn this into an anti-Hull thread please? And ChiefD… I thought your point was obvious! Sorry, Claire.

  106. rent-a-cop Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Red dragon if thats what "pigs" means thats not our police force its the yanks! So if plastic pigs can not arrest and can hand out parking tickets , doesnt that make them traffic wardens with a much nicer suit .!

  107. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well, someone asked where it had come from. There you go.

    Read the link as posted above. PCSOs – and I really would suggest you refrain from your abusive and deliberately antagonistic tone – are not Police Officers, nor are they traffic wardens. I understand that this is a new thing that a person such as yourself may struggle to understand, but in time, you will get used to them.

  108. Red-Dragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Back in 1809, Sir Robert Peel entered the House of Commons in London – he developed a passion for Sandy Back pigs found in Ireland and began to breed them in Tamworth. Soon, these pigs were known as Tamworth pigs. Pig slang was commonplace in Tamworth because of this, it was in 1829 that the relation to police came into it. Politicians were concerned about the way London was policed and Sir Robert Peel changed things – his changes resulted in the formation of the Metropolitan Police. This is why police are referred to as ‘Bobbies’ or ‘Peelers’; they were Bobby’s boys… Due to the pig nature that Tamworth had become, the police suffered the same fate as other Tamworth products did: They became related to pigs.

  109. Lazarus Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    • Laz was on a roll there…subtlety tends to pass him by at such times.

    The use of the conjunction implies otherwise.

  110. Colombo Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Can you all keep your English simple for the benefit of us aged engineers.

  111. EdddGeee Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    from the english/ american online dictionary:

    rozzer n policeman. Even more esoteric than the good old English “bobby”, most British people will never have heard of this term. It may come from a P. G. Wodehouse book, and is certainly mentioned in the Paul McCartney song “London Town.”

    Scouser n someone from Liverpool. Perhaps more accurately someone with a Liverpool accent. The word comes from “lobscouse”, which was a dish sailors ate, much like Irish Stew – sailors were known as “lobscouser” and the port of Liverpool ended up tagged with the same word. Further back still, the original word may have come from Norway, where today “Lapp Skews” are stewed strips of reindeer meat. or perhaps it comes from Bangladesh, where “Lump Scouts” is a rare dish made from boy-scouts and served at Christmas. Or from a parallel universe, almost identical to ours, where “scousers” are people from Birmingham.

    serendipitously amusing that policemen & liverpool residents are adjacent entries

  112. ChiefDragon Submitted about 1 month ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Thanks Eddd and Red for the explanations very enlightening.

    Mark I find your description of PCSO’s very childish and rather offensive.

  113. mysti Submitted about 1 month ago