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Should the Artic Corsair be in the Marina.
by barrow
2 months ago
Last updated 2 months ago.
I have every respect for Stand who kept the last sindwinding trawler,the Artic Cosair,in Hull.But is it in the best location.I know that volunteers look after it,but it is only open on a wednesday and a saturday from 10 till 3,when many folks are at work or shopping,and only open on a sunday and bank holidays from 1.30 till 3 when local folks and visitors may have time to visit it.I feel that if put in the marina,and open more often with a small charge to cover costs,that would be better.It can be a masive tourist attraction in the marina with all the tourists there,than on a mud bank in an out of the way location.Hull Council with a few bob from KC cash could pay for that new location.I feel it sad that a major reminder of Hulls fishing history is only open for one and hours on a sunday.I tried to keep the paddle steamer Lincoln Castle in Hull,and Hull could have had that for £1.The labour group turned that down,and it is now in Grimsby,next to the National Fishermans museum.What do you think?
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karl Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Great idea barrow, but sadly it would cost too much too move it now, mainly because the river around the trawler would have to dredged.
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Seasider Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
I shamefully have to admit I wouldn’t know where to find it.
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karl Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Its on the mud bank behind the museum quarter down High Street.
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Seasider Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Got a rough idea now, thanks. Yes it would be good to see it in the Marina. If it can be home to the lightship, I’m sure it would be equally suitable for the A.C.
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MikeCovell Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Hopefully when this "Iconic Bridge" across the River Hull is built, and they turn this section into a leisure area it will get more custom and be open longer.
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Maybe right,but as it takes one hour for a guided tour,and is only open for one and a half hours on a sunday and bank holidays,not many people can go round it now.Seems a waste of an excellent tourist attraction.Vist the Deep.See the trawler.Find it closed!
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theagitator Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Try visiting the Trawler in Grimsby fishing museum. It’s a good day out.
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
And that trawler is open very day.It is next to the National Fishing Heritage museum where you sign on,and then walk through all parts of a trawler including the icy moving deck,the wheelhouse and the galley as well as other parts.You end up in a recreated fishermens street with houses.And outside is the former Humber Paddle Steamer Lincoln Castle which was on Hessle foreshore and where I got several Hull councillors round in the hope they would buy it to put in the marina or near the pierhead.It was up for sale for £28,000.Hull Council turned it down and it is now a pub/restaurant doing very well in Grimsby.The National Heritage Fishing Museum and the Lincoln Castle could have been in Hull,but then again,Grimsby does not have a big screen,just tourist attractions
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stevenpotter Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
great idea to put the AC in the marina,i only live around the corner from it,its in a bit of a drab area though,i havent been on board yet,but would deffentley do so if it was in the marina,would be much more noticeable there to,good idea.
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Willow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Do the engines in the AC still work ?
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
No,but Stand and its members fought to keep it as reminder of Hulls fishing heritage,and some Hull folks even donated many personal items like their fishermans dads old glasses as a tribute to what he went though at sea.They wanted those simple things to be seen by so many,and should be seen by far more
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ChrisHolmes Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
I think MikeCovell might be right. If this Boom Bridge becomes the visitor attraction that its promoters hope that it will be then I can definitely see the increase in activity along the riverside providing the catalyst that will allow the AC to thrive as a visitor attraction. Keep it where it is and I think as Hull’s answer to Newcastle’s Quayside develops all the hard work and effort that Stand and its supporters have invested will pay off handsomely.
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MikeCovell Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
To think at one point that stretch of the River Hull was bustling with activity when it was the "Dock"!!
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bigphewrader Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
simle answer to this thread is "YES" i never thought of this so i like the thread here, if it was moved it hopefully get a cash boost to restore it & keep it running as last year i think it was where the council wanted to pull the plug (If i am correct) well this is the answer & also it will let tourist’s see what hull was all about them decades ago & give the public a chance to board a museum..so the answer is YES…if the council are going to get anything right this year let it be THIS..!!!
As for dredging it out (Karl’s post) it would only take a week MAX to clear a way out… but karl has a good point..
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MikeCovell Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
I think it would take less time to dredge it out, and I believe I have found a cost efficient method.
I am writing to John Prescott to tell him I have buried a cake in the silt around the AC, watch this space!!
There are a couple of Dry Docks standing empty on High Street, alongside the Old Dock Offices. I would move the vessle here, build better access to her and open the Dock Offices as a trawler museum/memorial.
Hull Maritime Museum could concentrate on the trade pre 1900 and this place could concentrate on the trade post 1900.
It would be nice to see "The Bounty" back in Hull at the other Dry Dock.
Can’t see it ever happening though, but one can dream!
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Henryfonda Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
On a recent City Regeneration Tour I believe an ideal location for the AC was suggested by Adam Fowler of STAND.It was suggested that the vessel be moved into the Lock Head (Fish Dock)by the Lord Building. It is my opinion that this would be the best place for it bearing in mind, good access from the road network plus the heritage value of the site.Imagine the headlines: ‘Artic Corsair back where she belongs’ (for non seafarers- all vessels are referred to as ‘She’). Re. cost saving: I feel sure there will be enough volunteer seamen in Hull to man the vessel during a planned tug assisted move (including myself).
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Seasider Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
I am writing to John Prescott to tell him I have buried a cake in the silt around the AC, watch this space!!
Hull Daily Mail headline next week:
Central Hull covered in 6 inches of mud.
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MikeCovell Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Briefly, I was down in the Museum Quarter a few weeks ago with my son and there was a wooden door open next to the East Riding Museum. Inside there were loads of pictures, flags and memoribillia from the days of trawlers and trawler men. It was fantastic and both myself and my son, along with my father hope to return.
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
The Lock Head may be the historical place,but it is out of the way and a long walk from the nearest bus stop on Hessle Road.Would many people vistit it there? I see it a massive atraction if placed in the marina next to the Bull Light ship were the million ferry folk passing though Hull will see it and maybe stop and spend in Hull.The marina needs a few histoic ships to promote Hull as Yorkshires Maritime City.Then again,the marina is pretty dead sometimes.If only Hull had the vision like Hartlepool has with its marina.A former Humber paddle steamer,an iron clad warship and a recreated historic 18th century quayside with ships,shops and houses of the period with people dressed the part.It is a vibrant area with many tourists,and even old fashioned games and activities for kids.My main point is that he trawler is only open a few hours a week,and putting it into the marina as a tourist attraction,and maybe charge a small fee for a visit,it could be open more to pay for its upkeep.I also see the day when it has a wedding licence so Hull folks with fishing connections could get married on board.Hull Marina has potential with historic ships and a mini car boot around it on a sunday and bands back on the pierhead and boat races back on the Humber.You can not buy a cup of tea on the pierhead,and now the Minerva is closing.Hull council could have had the Lincoln Castle paddle steamer for £28,000,and locked the gates to the trawler a few years ago.Poor old Hull with no vision
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DAVEPOTTER Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Firstly check the beam & the Draft of the Corsair before you all go in head & foot , this is a wide beam trawler with deep draft , Secondly the original beam of the Humber dock lock gates was made narrower when constructed into a marine many years ago , I dredged this marina from 0 depth to present workable depth whilst working for my late mate Dave Cook RIP ,
Moving her fronm the old harbour is not a problem at all , dredging of about 5 m3 five thousand cubic meters of silt about 15 k and tugs from J Dean abt 1k . I would personally like to see her in the marina subject to a full feasability study which my company would do free of cost , Furthermore all you guys talking about it , then put your hands in your pockets and give funds to make a reality , I will start the ball rolling by pledging 500 quid . Dave Potter www.marlboroships.com
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stevenpotter Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
go on dad,you can do it.
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Willow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Don’t know who you are Dave Potter but nice one. I like your style.
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
I know it won’t be moved into the marina by Hull Council,but is does seem a shame that Liverpool and Hartlepool have historic ships there which are good tourist attractions and open every day.Hull could attract maritime tourism if it had the vision to place the trawler next to the Bull Light ship,and add a few more historic ships in the marina.Hartlepool Marina gets thousands of visitors,and National Holidays run coach trips to it.Well worth a visit,and them come to Hull marina where you can not even buy a cup of tea,and the pub at the pier is closing through lack of trade.Like I have said,Hull Council could have bought the paddle steamer "Lincoln Castle",the last working coal fired paddle steamer in Britain for £28,000,and put that in the marina.They did not see the vision of keeping it,but a chap in Grimsby did,and it is now a very popular pub/restaurant next to the National Fisheries Museum and next to a former Grimsby trawler
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peteg Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Who knows..if it wasn’t for Blair, Brown and assorted useless Cronies, it might still have been fishing off Iceland. That would be cost effective.
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EdddGeee Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
er…i think it was the icelanders wasn’t it who saw the fishing industry off in the mid 1970’s wiht their 200 mile territorial limit.
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Henryfonda Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Spot on ed-Gee: very much afraid peteg needs an update and a history lesson. It was’nt only Hull but Grimsby and most of the East Coast plus Fleetwood that suffered decline as a result of Icelandic action. However, that said, the topic is where the Artic Corsair would be best placed to remind folks of our heritage.
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barrow Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Seems a shame that the Artic Corsair will only be open for one and half hours this bank holiday.That is why if put in he marina with a small entance charge,it could be open more often and seen by the million ferry folk who may stop and visit the ship,and Hull
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noah Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Maybe the council could purchase it for Kingswood etc. for when the floods come again.It would be cheaper than clearing the drains and create employment for some of the redundant fisherman legislation put on the scrapheap.
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medsec Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
The Corsair is owned by the council but run by volunteers. The council wanted to operate it and have it properly run but STAND screamed their heads off and the council gave in following all the adverse publicity.
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peteg Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!
Sorry Ed-Gee and Henryfonda, but the only history I remember, was being taught ‘Rule Brittannia – Brittannia Rules the waves’.
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