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Schools nowadays

by MarkLindsay 3 months ago
Last updated 2 months ago.

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Ok is it me or are schools to soft eg.

1, Winifred holby ban naughty kids from school and only allow them to work a few lessons a day (in total about 1.5 hours ).

2, A woman walked into Argos whilst I was shopping and asked them for £1500 worth of gift vouchers all in £10s . She told the cashier it was for naughty kids, they got one if they behaved .

Ok when I was at school and we misbehaved we got a caning or a slipper and had to come back after school to catch up on missed work. Granted teachers aint allowed to cane or slipper kids anymore ..but for gods sake why ban them from school …the kids are all going to do it if they only have to do a couple of lessons a day .

And having to pay kids in vouchers to behave is rediculous. Bring back some proper punishment I say and the kids and the gangs on the streets might respect society !!

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  1. LittleSquishy Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I rememeber all the way through secondary school the naughty kids seemed to get praised for their behaviour when it had a good moment, they used to get a day trip out or vouchers or something, the rest of us are sat wondering what the hells going wrong and why aint we gettin praised for over achieving! I also remember once the under achievers getting taken out for the day to some kind of factory to help them learn. It always seened the badly behaved were getting praise and rewards while we got nothing. Apart from my good GCSE grades of course :o)

  2. Eebahgum Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Seems to me to get anywhere in this world nowadays you have to be bad.

  3. smky57 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    its time schools went back to basics, in my day you wouldnt dare answer a teacher back, but these days, all the naughty kids get rewarded while the good ones get nothing, what signal is this sending out, its the same with criminals get a slap on the hand and told not to do it again, it makes you wonder what this world is coming to.

  4. Willow Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Read my post about Maybury Road school in the 1960’s. It’s still here somewhere. There was none of this nonesence back then and we where all the better for it. ASBOS and days out it’s a good job we are not allowed to swear on this site.####

  5. jojo Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    yes what a joke these schools are no respect at all for the teachers the kids think there good because they mess about its point scoring for the kids now adays see who can be the naughtiest how stupid i do feeel for the kids who want to learn as they do get pushed to one side while the naughty ones get the attention come on you teachers sort them kids out haha

  6. Willow Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    JoJo don’t think its the teachers that need to sort the kids out. It’s the parent’s that need to sort out their offspring and teach them right from wrong and good manners

  7. smky57 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    totally agree with you willow, i remember my youngest son when he was 15yrs old he was brought home in a police car, he had been dared to steal from asda, well it was just before the 6wks hols, his punishment was grounded for the whole 6wks he didnt do it again, went on to do a 4 yr apprentiship as a welder.

  8. JohnnyNoah Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It was the same back when I was at school, to make the bad kid behave they got to be first on the BBC computer or ad fist choice of musical instrument. This only teaches them that if you misbehave you can get anything you want. Schools should read one of their own books on reinforcement.

  9. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Oh and believe me vouchers are not the only thing they get. My parents foster children and 1 was bad and he went there and he only had to have ten good days did not have to be 10 days in arow and when he got 10 he got a football kit and another time a cd player. I have had loads of arguements with the school about this but they do not listen to many goodie goodies that is the problem with this country. Have to stop now this subject really gets me mad

  10. Dazer Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    The return of corporal punishment is badly needed, teachers must be given the protection that is sadly lacking nowadays.

    At school a child is supposed to be in the care of and under control of the teacher, that must be reinforced, and that means punishment for wrongdoing.

    That punishment should be a real lesson, not a "you mustn’t do that" a tanned backside is much more effective.

  11. Red-Dragon Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    As a former teacher, I agree with everything said above. However, we are in a minority. The majority is giving more and more power to the pupil and one day in the not-too-distant future, the teacher will have to be in a separate room from the pupils teaching using projected images and microphones, to protect him/her from violence and false allegation.

  12. karl Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    We need the return of remedial and special schools if your bad you get to go to one, that should be the only reward.

  13. ChiefDragon Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    What we need for disruptive pupils are three buildings situated in the east,west and north of the city manned by ex-servicemen and women or ex-prisoner officers who can bring the ‘little darlings’ back in to line.Put all the disruptive pupils under one roof and give the kids who want to learn a chance. The ‘do gooders’ will say that this takes away their human rights, but the good pupils have rights too. What’s their reward for good behaviour?

  14. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    When my son was misbehaving at the above mentioned school i was asked if he behaved for the full week what reward i would give him. None i told them i have 3 other kids at school they all behave and they do not get rewarded every week the look on his face was a picture. If you ask the teachers epecially the heads they will deny evrything that these kids get i once had a conversation with a teacher about this and the answer i got for everything was i do not know when i told them i would go outside the gates and tell every parent in cars what ther bad kids got and if they agreeded with me. I was told i was in a privalidged position and maybe some times there is things you are better off not knowing. I have a friend who is a school governor and ok she cannot tell me everything but tells me most and it is all wrong. The schools a joke and there will be more bad kids than good soon

  15. mitzi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    my children go to school they are pretty well behaved exept when other children wind them up,but guess what the ones that wind my children up get away with it mine get put in the unit which is isolation thew next day,so what happens to the ones that wound my kids up nothing but i get asked to go into school which is hard for me as i am not very good on my legs due to illness.

  16. mitzi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    as anyone heard of whitehouse unit well its for who misbehave in school,my boys actually want to go there because they go on trips all the time so it does pay to be bad.how do you tell your kids to behave if the bad get to be treat to trips.

  17. HarryDownes Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I remember a Deputy-Headmaster who’s method of punishment was unique.This day, three pupils had misbehaved(including me) and the Dep drew out this blackboard ruler (4footx4inch) and the three of us had to backup our backsides in line with the ruler. Once he was satisfied we were in position, he let out this almighty swing and wacked the three of us in one go!. Very effective and good entertainment for the rest of the class.

  18. Oscalet Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    My daughter gets rewards for good behaviour, good marks or effort. I think all secondary schools have reward or merit systems for kids who try hard, attend regularly and contribute to school life. But hitting kids who have probably had far too much of this treatment anyway (how did they become ‘bad’ in the first place) is not going to make them into better people. Rewards are graded: one kid might get one for excellent work, another simply for not fighting, but at least something positive is going on. Good luck to the teachers, I say, it must be a very hard job.

  19. Anng Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Amazing how wonderful schools used to be – yet, judging from many of these posts, they didn’t do a very good job in teaching literacy. The Pupil Referral Units (the White House Unit is one of them) do a terrific job in getting children who can’t be contained in mainstream schools back into acceptable behaviour. I agree that the "positive reinforcement" technique, where good behaviour is rewarded and bad behaviour ignored, can seem unfair. But why not leave it to the professionals.

  20. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    The proffesionals anng those people who are do gooders the kids come out and end up in prison because they cannot get what they want becasuse they got everything handed on a silver spoon at school.

    I ahve just come from winifred holtby has had to hold myself to the chair as i listened to teachers go on about the unit saying about some child going in there he is off to chapman st tomorrow motorbiking. |The next day who knows not in school that is for sure like to good ones

  21. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    you must be one of these that get paid for looking after these horrible kids and without them you would be out of a job and you its a good one not stuck in a class all day

  22. Anng Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    You’re wrong, Mimi, I’m not an education professional. I suppose the parents have no responsibility in your eyes?

  23. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Yes the parents do have some responsibility but when the good kids are seeing the bad kids never have to do work go on a trip to somewhere different everyday do you really think that they do not stop why should i behave when him who swears and abuses teachers gets everything.

    Unless you have seen this happening with your own eyes you have really no idea what you are talking aboutand yes i can back up my claims.

  24. barrow Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I live near a teacher who works in a Hull school He says the kids just tell him to …. of and he can do nothing about it.Some find it funny to abuse him,and other members of staff,and the good kids suffer.He can not believe the attitude of some kids today,but it may explain the poor exam results in some schools.The kids are not bothered and have no respect,nor do many parents who he talks to.

  25. ChiefDragon Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    According to one of the teachers at the school I worked in ‘disruptive kids need nuturing not punishment’ this was said on one particular day when three classes were sent to inclusion, the usual room they used was not large enough so they had to use the dining hall. The parents of these kids need to take responsibilty, after all parents in most schools sign a contract to ensure their kids behave, they did at school I worked at. Teaching your kids respect for others seems to have gone by the book these days, in most cases anyway.

  26. Chromosome23 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    To my mind, all of the problems we now have in schools can be laid at the door of those ‘enlightened’ professionals who abolished grammar schools and the 11 plus.

    I was in the last intake of the old 11 plus system in Hull. Went to an extremely good school (Newton Hall) which merged with Elizabethan Hall. Standards of educational attainment and behaviour took a nose dive almost immediately.

  27. ChiefDragon Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I think that the schools are too big, by that I mean pupil numbers. How can the staff possibly know the names of all the pupils in a building that houses 900+ pupils? I went to Sidmouth Str school and the headmistress knew who you were and what your behaviour was like at her school and woe betide you if you misbehaved and it was even worse if your mam found out. And yes Cavynaut I agree with you the abolition of 11+ and grammar schools was when the rot set in.

  28. Colombo Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Why is it, that responsibility for a dog, for instance, rests with the owner ? If it bites someone, or runs into the road and causes an accident, the owner is liable for prosecution and potential damages. If a child breaks the law, the parents are not, apparently, responsible.

  29. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    The parents are responsible for the kids and most parents whant there kids to do well and let them know the difference between right and wrong but…

    When i child goes to school and behaves well and gets nothing and they see the bad kids get vouchers trips everyday not having to do any school work surly you must agree this is wrong and that is the fault of the school not the parents i have had 2 kids in winnie one good and never got a thing and the other if he carrys on misbehaving will get everything.

    I ground him take the things he wants off himand they give things to him as a parent i feel my hands are tied as they are to many do gooders who molly coddle these kids and give in for a easy life.

    And before you starti should be a better parent i have 3 others who get into no trouble schools play some part

  30. MarkLindsay Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well sais Mimi , I understand what you are saying !

  31. JGould Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I think she’s right too. There needs to be a unified approach from ALL the authority figures in a child’s life. The parents/Guardians, and grandparent, aunts uncles etc, teachers and other adults like social workers/ youth club leaders etc all need to give the same messages.

    I don’t think that ‘bad’ kids should always be punished and I can see the benefit of trips and treats for some disruptive kids in certain cases. BUT I think it shuld be discussed with the parents/guardians first.

    And I think there should be opportunities to reward the good kids with similar or better things.

  32. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    My son i loved as much as the others and in all honet must get more than the other 3 but hs ery clever ad bright which they have sada school and he hadn problem in primary he just knows how to play the game f getting everythingin school he knows hat to do to get it. I havetold the school this and have told tem he is to get no rewards do they listen no my hands are tied

  33. kezflake Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    It came to the time just before the start of year 10 in my high school when we all had to pick the GCSE Subjects we wanted to do. As I cared about my education and was already thinking about what I would need to get into college I really wanted to learn IT but I was turned down as the places filled up before they even looked at my application and I had returned my form back the next day as it required a parents signature.

    They did however ensure they saved enough places for the poor attenders, those in the disruptive behavior classes and anyone else who generally couldn’t be bothered. By the time my form got back to me I had either the option of food tech and child studies so i got to pick a subject i had no interest in whatsoever (food tech) and even then i ended up in the most disruptive class as the places in the class for my level was full with those who opted to learn about the subject.

    What is it coming to when those who actually care about there education are in stripped of one of the few privileges they get in favor of the class yobs.

  34. tigersbabe2006 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Things are too soft in schools…teachers have had more and more power taken away from them as have parents. The system worked before they started mucking about with it and the Do-Gooders began to shove their twopence worth in. What do they say ‘if it ain’t broke don’t fix it’? Seems like good advice to me!!!! It has been ‘fixed’ to the point where it is so broken I fear it will never be able to be fixed again!! It will never go back to the way it was more’s the pity because things were much better than they are now! When will the Do-Gooders realise they have made things a million times worse by poking their noses in.

  35. MikeCovell Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    School’s are too soft, you only have to look at the rising crime figures to realise that something somewere has gone wrong!!

    Bring back the cane, bring back the slipper, and humiliate these nasty toads!!

  36. MarkLindsay Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Well said Mike !

  37. Chromosome23 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    There was plenty of juvenile delinquency around in the 1950’s, and strangely enough they also had the slipper, the cane, National Service and the death penalty.

    Two words…moral panic.

  38. MikeCovell Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    There are more jails than in the 50’s, and they are overflowing. If thats a fact, how is it moral panic?

  39. artherlove Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    what mad times we live in-i am leaving town will the last person out turn out the lights

  40. theagitator Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Bye.

  41. EdddGeee Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    "..something somewere has gone wrong!!" – people are very strong on rights and entitlements without the correlation of duty. mix in a drop of good ol’ resentment, et voila!.

  42. Chromosome23 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Quote MikeCovell "There are more jails than in the 50’s, and they are overflowing. If thats a fact, how is it moral panic?"

    What does the number of jails or inmates have to do with a ‘Moral Panic’?

  43. TanyaSchofield Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    hiya i total agree treating kids who are bad to me will just encourage them to be bad so they get to do good stuff or get good stuff makes no sense to me

    punish them make them come to after school classes etc make them do more work make them pick up litter like we had to !

    its down to 50 – 50 on parents attitude to their kids missbehaving and sorting them out and also teachers to keep control of the kids in class it seems nowadays that all to often parents send kids to school dont give a fig about what the kids do " cos their in school its the schools problem to sort out" that is a rubbish attitude and the parents should be made to sort out the kids who missbehave in a bad way disrespecting teachers and even worse horror stories we hear of that goes on in the classroom.

    kids nowadays have to many "rights" they are not mentally grown up enough to use them wisely they simply retort back you cant lay a finger on me etc ect. i got smacked at home didnt do me no harm i respected my mother or else i was for it! at school i certainly didnt want to spend my lunch hour picking up rubbish and being laughed at so didnt missbehave!

  44. Chromosome23 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    How are you going to make them come to after school classes when some of them hardly go during normal school hours?

  45. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Tanya Winifred Holtby do have a after school thing for the bad kids but they do not have to go to school during the day they just stay at home and at 3.30 go to the house which is on the school site for 2 hours and they get there full mark for theday. They also have a bungalow near North point shopping centre which some kids go to again on a day only for 2.5 hours but again they get a full mark for the day. Oh and cups of tea

  46. JA Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    When i was at school i used to be so bad and for been bad i got to go gokarting fun days out and every thing and that was just on the 2 days i actually went to school a week now i wish they hadent done all that for me and would of been stricter cause i didnt end up doingmy gcses now i have nothing.

  47. IanGriffin Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    jodie says it all. the bad kids might get lots of fun stuff but where does it get them in the end? no qualifications and no future. they should get rewards for being good and working hard.

  48. JA Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    i so wish i ould go back to school and do it over again but diffrent.Now im 18 and have a 1 and half year old daughter.

  49. IanGriffin Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    you can still do evening classes or part time classes lots of colleges have a cresh for the kids if you cant get a babysitter. never too late to learn – my mates mum got gcse english aged 4o something!

  50. mimi Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I agree with you Jodie but lad i have been at Winifred Holtby now i would have messed about kids live for the moment and do not see into the future and what they have lost out on untill it is to late

  51. JA Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    Thats right my mum always used to say to me when u leave u will want to go back and u will regret it and i allways used to say no i wont but boy do i wish i stayed i really do

  52. kezflake Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    If I could go back I would soooo play the £10 argos vouher system. I got fed up with the place around about year 10 and just stopped turning up most days so I guess these days I would have earned £100’s, still managed to get 10 A – C GCSE’s just decided it wasn’t worth bothering with no more. College and uni was so much better thankfully.

    Jodie if you feel that you want to have another try then just go for it, the college finance department will be falling over themselves so help you with expenses with you having a child. Its never too late to apply, you know what it is you want to do?

  53. Alan1 Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    i think that schools are slowley improving but overall endeavour is an amazing school and it deserves better publicity than it sometimes gets x x endeavour to be the best you can be x

  54. Harriet Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    schools, schools in our communites are sometimes looked down upon prier to the students that attend. But it is the students that make the school? If so, then why do some newpaprers consentrate on the bad. After all, if you look for the bad inm people, you will surely find it, but if you look for the good, it will shine throughout the day!

  55. swampduck Submitted 3 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    When I was a youngster, we wre terrified of the police and the teachers.Don’t you think the situation has reversed?I wouldn’t want to be a teacher today.

  56. AR-T0NY Submitted 2 months ago Unsuitable Content? Report it!

    I never feared anyone in my whole life. Missed half my school years through some really serious bouts of poor health. I still passed my GCSE’s and City and Guilds. I became a T A Para R Eng etc. My eldest lad hardly bothered with school (damn fool teachers never told me about his absences).He owned five shops down south before his 23 birthday. My youngest bunked off regularly after register and went tatting. Ha ha! Again teachers said nothing! He has passed his GCSE’s and has a BTECH in electronic engineering and is an instructor of Navy Air Pilots. Like me he can speak other languages. My middle son never missed a day, obeyed all the rules and passed all his GCSE’s worked for 13 years for a national company. He never had a day off, working many extra days for nothing??? Then gave his notice and spent six months traipsing around Indonesia, NZ, OZ, Thailand and Vietnam. The company has given him promotion and a wage rise to entice him back. Its nowt to do wi’edificatsion! Its all about brains and character! Ha! The best any teacher can do? Teach you how to learn! AND boring you to death must always be avoided or one way or t’other you will lose ‘em. Amen

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